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Post by martyn94 » Sun 03 Sep 2017 19:44

Allan wrote:
martyn94 wrote: But you have said yourself, about two inches up the thread, that you need a decryption key. Do you get yours delivered with the milk?
You are out of touch Martyn, nobody delivers milk anymore

The decryption key is widely available on the internet. The company that runs the satellite back up service clearly doesn't feel they are suffering any loss or they would simply change the key.

I'm not sure I understand which intellectual property you feel is being stolen, it can't be the programs as I said earlier they are free to air. The decryption key is simply a number so I am not sure how that can be stolen.

As I said before, I am not a lawyer and I guess neither are you so I suppose the reality is that we don't really know.
You know very well that you are being disingenuous. Any electromagnetic broadcast signal is "free to air": the question is whether they intend you to use it, decrypted. The fact that they encrypt it rather suggests that they don't.

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Post by Allan » Sun 03 Sep 2017 20:01

martyn94 wrote:
You know very well that you are being disingenuous. Any electromagnetic broadcast signal is "free to air": the question is whether they intend you to use it, decrypted. The fact that they encrypt it rather suggests that they don't.
I wasn't referring to the broadcast signal but to the programs contained in those signals, which are free to air. In any civil litigation, the plaintiff would have to demonstrate a loss. Clearly in this case there is no loss.

On the basis that all UK broadcasters don't intend their programs to be viewed outside the UK then I guess you could apply the same moral judgement to all means of viewing UK TV.

Lawyers have been arguing these points at least since the inception of FilmOn and they don't seem to have clarified the situation so I am not sure that we can. Nevertheless, I normally like to occupy the moral high ground but I am happy to make room for you.

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Post by martyn94 » Mon 04 Sep 2017 17:15

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martyn94 wrote:
You know very well that you are being disingenuous. Any electromagnetic broadcast signal is "free to air": the question is whether they intend you to use it, decrypted. The fact that they encrypt it rather suggests that they don't.
I wasn't referring to the broadcast signal but to the programs contained in those signals, which are free to air. In any civil litigation, the plaintiff would have to demonstrate a loss. Clearly in this case there is no loss.

On the basis that all UK broadcasters don't intend their programs to be viewed outside the UK then I guess you could apply the same moral judgement to all means of viewing UK TV.

Lawyers have been arguing these points at least since the inception of FilmOn and they don't seem to have clarified the situation so I am not sure that we can. Nevertheless, I normally like to occupy the moral high ground but I am happy to make room for you.

Even in the UK they are only free if you have a licence. But it's not really about trying to occupy moral high ground, so much as that small moral qualms make me even less interested in UK TV than I would otherwise be. It's surprisingly easy to get out of the habit. I guess it's because there is not enough nudity, nor dragons.

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Post by Allan » Mon 04 Sep 2017 17:38

martyn94 wrote: It's surprisingly easy to get out of the habit. I guess it's because there is not enough nudity, nor dragons.
I'm not sure about your references to nudity and dragons, I assumed it was a particularly strange fetish.

Just to be sure, I googled 'Dragon Porn'. I have to admit the results were surprising.

Still, whatever turns you on. 😇

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Post by martyn94 » Mon 04 Sep 2017 19:25

Try "Game of Thrones". I have to say that I only know anything about this by report. But it does seem to be the most popular TV series in the English-speaking world, by a street, and to involve lots of breasts, and quite a few dragons. You might recall that a contributor here was almost hysterical (seriously) a few weeks ago about her difficulties in accessing a bootleg download.

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Post by honglei » Thu 04 Oct 2018 14:40

Can I ask what does the Intel 907 achieve during summer ?

I wouldn't want someone to come from Béziers ~ there are sat installers in Argelès but so far the ones I have asked claim that it is just not poss. to get UK tv via satellite ~only via the web ( which doesn't suit me as only down here a few months of year, so not economic to have a year's 'phone and internet bills. )

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Post by Allan » Thu 04 Oct 2018 14:59

honglei wrote:Can I ask what does the Intel 907 achieve during summer ?

I wouldn't want someone to come from Béziers ~ there are sat installers in Argelès but so far the ones I have asked claim that it is just not poss. to get UK tv via satellite ~only via the web ( which doesn't suit me as only down here a few months of year, so not economic to have a year's 'phone and internet bills. )
Obviously you are talking to the wrong satellite installers.

Intelsat 907 carries the back-up service for UK terrestrial TV, you can watch it with a normal sized satellite dish but you need a special decoder.
Speak to www.digitvsolutions.com who can set it up for you.

It is also possible to watch UK satellite using the Astra satellite, you just need a big dish.

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Post by Nigel » Fri 05 Oct 2018 11:16

Yes I agree with Allan

We watch Brit TV via Intelsat during Spring/summer and Astra during Autome/Winter.

You can watch all with intelsat but less choice of channels.

I used the guy from the link Allan suppied to install the Intelsat dish....he was excellent

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