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TGV

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 14:23
by Owens88
From Anglophone Direct p-o life page

'The remaining stretch from Montpellier to Perpignan should be finished 2121'


Wow. That is really far-sighted.
:)

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 15:04
by john
How very true,John. I used to think British Rail was dismal,but the train service round here is like something out of the ark.

When our daughter comes a visiting from Geneva on the train,we invariably tell her to get off at Montpellier,and we pick her up from there. Same in reverse. The connections at Montpellier to Perps are usually inconvenient,and it takes longer than it does from Geneva to Montpellier by TGV.

The nearest station to Céret is either Perps,Elne or Argeles,so by the time I've faffed around driving there,I may as well go all the way to my destination by car,and have done with it.

To boot,the fares are outrageous and the flexibility of tickets very poor.

So,when I read the article to which you refer,it did not surprise me at all. I suspect many of us will be pushing up daisies before we get the chance to go on a decent train from Perps.

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 15:13
by thumbelina
Isn't it funny how everyone's experiences are so different?

My daughter comes down on the train very regularly. We've found it to be an excellent service. Frequent. Not TOO expensive and nearly always on time, the only slight inconvenience is that she sometimes has to wait or change at Narbonne.

And changing tickets is a cinch!

Why don't you tell your daughter to get off at Narbonne, John?

And, if I may say, I think you are exaggerating slightly to say that it's as easy to drive the 170 kms to Montpellier as it is to drive the 20 minutes to Elne!! :D :D :D

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 15:17
by john
thumbelina wrote:Isn't it funny how everyone's experiences are so different?

My daughter comes down on the train very regularly. We've found it to be an excellent service. Frequent. Not TOO expensive and nearly always on time, the only slight inconvenience is that she sometimes has to wait or change at Narbonne.

Why don't you tell your daughter to get off at Narbonne, John?
Because the Geneva train terminates at Montpellier,and it seems pointless asking her to change platforms with all her's and the baby's paraphenalia onto a train to Narbonne (or Perps for that matter). It's not the service outside PO that I'm criticising,just SNCF's stone age arrangements in Dept 66.

As for driving to Elne v Montpellier,if I or she has to change trains TWICE from Elne to get to the destination,as opposed to a direct service from Montpellier, then yes it probably is less hassle to go there.

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 15:23
by thumbelina
I see.

It's true that it's not easy to do any journey on public transport with the baby stuff, is it!? :roll:

As for SNCF's investment in the PO - it's no different to everything else of the ilk. France and the region of the Languedoc Roussillon have no interest in the Pyrenees Orientales and despise the Catalans so have never invested in this department.

Nothing new there!! :evil:

The only interest the state has in this department is to profit from the land by shoving up revolting THT electricity lines so that they can sell their electricity to their neighbours!!

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 15:31
by john
There is no doubt more than a grain of truth in what you say Thumbers.

But whatever the political /racial shenanigans,my main point is merely that the state of public transport round here is not conducive to using it,with or without a baby!

Apart from the UK,my only regular use of trains has been in Holland,and ,in my experience at least, Nederlaanse Spoorwegen knock the SNCF into a cocked hat.

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 16:01
by Owens88
p.s. I think the date is a typo. 2012 was previously mentioned. Nobody plans a century ahead !

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 16:04
by thumbelina
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Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 16:13
by Serge
I don't doubt that the public transport system is very good in the area, but depending on your location you would sometimes need to use your car etc. to get to it .............. Image

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 16:29
by thumbelina
Of course, as ever, you are right oh shed dwelling wonder!

Living in the middle of nowhere as I do, I would have to use my car.

But for people who live in a village it is possible - and relatively easy and VERY cheap - to get a bus to Perps. Buses are 1€ per person per journey.

The downside is, they don't run out to the sticks very late in the evening! :D

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 18:37
by Kate
p.s. I think the date is a typo
No typo John (for a change, I admit)
Those are the dates they are talking. 2012 is supposedly the date for the TGV Perps - Barcelona but if I was a bookie, I wouldnt be placing bets on it (no idea what I meant to say there about the bookie - doesnt make any sense but it's as easy to crack on as to go back and delete it :roll: )

Re: TGV

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 18:39
by thumbelina
Owens88 wrote:From Anglophone Direct p-o life page

'The remaining stretch from Montpellier to Perpignan should be finished 2121'


Wow. That is really far-sighted.
:)


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Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 18:59
by Roger O
Owens88 wrote:p.s. I think the date is a typo. 2012 was previously mentioned. Nobody plans a century ahead !
If you're a stock market quoted company the shareholders won't even allow you to plan ahead more then the next divi payout, normally max. 6 months!!
john wrote:Apart from the UK,my only regular use of trains has been in Holland,and ,in my experience at least, Nederlaanse Spoorwegen knock the SNCF into a cocked hat.
Never been on a Swiss train, John??
Mind you, those down in the suisse-romande are not quite up to the ones in the north east... er..

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 20:38
by mpprh
Follow the never ending story : http://the-languedoc-page.com/phpBB2/vi ... .php?t=923

Peter

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 22:28
by Owens88
Peter I followed your thread

2020 is a lot closer to 2021 than 2121

I stll suspect a typo in p-o life !

John

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 23:04
by john
[quote="Roger O.[/quote]Never been on a Swiss train, John??
Mind you, those down in the suisse-romande are not quite up to the ones in the north east... er..[/quote]

Just wondered how long it would take for bloody CFF to get into this thread Rog.

Yes,I HAVE been on a Swiss train . Once. In Zurich. And it was late.


Sorry.

Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010 23:51
by Roger O
That's cos it exceptionally went via Norwich!!

Posted: Sun 31 Jan 2010 00:11
by DaveM
It'll be Swiss FOOTBALL next!
At least the 6 Nations starts next week.

Posted: Sun 31 Jan 2010 07:32
by Kate
Oh duh! Sorry everyone. I thought I had written 2021 and even read that in John's post!! Never was very good with numbers!!! :oops: :oops:

Posted: Sun 31 Jan 2010 11:11
by Roger O
DaveM wrote:It'll be Swiss FOOTBALL next!
Who cares - that's for boys!
This is for men
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COgA4j3O ... re=related
I lived in Kloten for 14 years and they eat drink sleep dream ice hockey!!
If you think USAP are fanatics.. you ain't seen nofink!!
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