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Their Twitter and Facebook pages have gone. They must owe 100s of euros if you google Frogbus and see all the complaints over Sept. and Oct.
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This is an email address from last year for a Joe Shannon = joe@frogbus.com
Anybody any luck with the Tel No i posted recently... i haven't
Anybody any luck with the Tel No i posted recently... i haven't
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Possibly you might see Joe Shannon at the Christmas Fayre on Sunday. I've heard he will be selling Tee Shirts with the Frogbus logo. Even if Joe doesn't arrive, the Sunday Christmas Fayre should be worth visiting.
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It is not a few. Search the web and find out. He owes me 115 euros.
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First of all I have no connection with Frogbus and don't know what company structure they have.Nigel wrote:Allan..why do you feel it is a bit extreme ?.....if Alistair had bothered to honour his promise and ring and try to explain the problems I and many others MAY have been more sympathetic ...but he chose the model of ignore it and it will go away......often things do not go away
I have however dealt with many businesses that have failed and eventually gone bust owing me money. With smaller businesses, the pattern is always the same, they start off by fobbing people off and progress to not answering calls or emails.
They fob people off because there is nothing else they can do. You say you would have been more sympathetic but imagine if they had said to you 'Sorry we can't pay you we are broke' then it would most probably have been all over Facebook and various forums, if not by you then by the next aggrieved customer, scuppering any chance of rescuing the company.
Of course there are companies that take people's money and deliberately fold, but rarely after several years in business. More commonly it is a change in market conditions or the economic climate.
If they are structured as a limited company or the equivalent, then the owners liability is limited to their investment and beyond that creditors lose their money. The owners of Frogbus have probably lost a lot of money and possibly their livelihoods, certainly more than a few bus fares. Paying up front for anything always carries a risk, you took the risk and it didn't pay off, get over it.
When it happens to me, I reflect on the benefit the organisation has been to me in the past. Frogbus has clearly provided a service that people have welcomed for many years you should regret its loss not pursue its owners vindictively.
Of course if the owners have acted criminally then that's a different thing but I've read nothing in this thread to suggest they were anything other than a struggling business that eventually failed.
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Agree entirely with Alan.
I have been in that situation myself. My SARL went bankrupt after 25 years. It is a horrible experience for the owner. I ended up losing my house and my marriage failed with all the stress. Also I stupidly borrowed a lot of money to try to keep the company afloat and have still to pay it all off.
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I have been in that situation myself. My SARL went bankrupt after 25 years. It is a horrible experience for the owner. I ended up losing my house and my marriage failed with all the stress. Also I stupidly borrowed a lot of money to try to keep the company afloat and have still to pay it all off.
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There are many reasons/excuses as to why a business behaves as it does when it is going or likely to go bust. What would the Frogbus situation be called, in that they continued to take money off people and not provide the service. Would it be sad-unfortunate-only a bus ticket or would it be criminal-fraud-scam-theft.
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But the operator has shares in the company.
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I would have been sympathetic if I had received a 'phone call explaining there were problems. Instead, I was fobbed off and told to send a registered letter to an address advertised on their site and it was returned to me in the UK with a 'Not Known at this address.' I used them many times and was happy with the service. If they are able to set themselves up once more with a new operator will they refund my money and the money they have taken from numerous others?
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oops doesnt look good
http://www.frogbus.com/fr
http://www.frogbus.com/fr
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